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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:46:00 -
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Hilmar P+¬tursson: The CSM has been under constant evolution based on what's going on in the current environment, what's going on with CCP and Eve, who's on the Council and all that. The CSM has helped greatly through the years in getting feedback for aspects of the game.
But some of my concerns right now relate to whether the CSM is maybe focused on a particular aspect of the game and I'm starting to get feedback from players that they worry the CSM is too pre-occupied by a certain playstyle. That might mean we may need to change the structure, but definitely the CSM has worked as a feedback tool greatly throughout the years. We will have them over at the end of the year, after everything that's gone on, and we will have a chance to talk about that. We'll just see where we are and take it from there.
Too true, the CSM is all wrong at the moment. The problem is letting any goons in there, especially letting Mittani in as chair, and vile rat and other nullsec powermad idiots, big big mistake. Hilmar, if your removing some of your own people. Then remove the CSM, its not working and hasnt really worked. Now you just got CSM members trying to f**k over other CSM members, corruption and everything else. Just get rid of it, it sort of served its purpose.
Yes listen to the WHOLE community, but you also got to keep true to yourselves and make the decisions too. You cant keep pandering to the bitter vets, eve needs to move on. You have to start listening also ( and im a vet btw) to how new players find the game. These people are eves future, and i think I huge focus should be on that. Its these people you want to get excited about the game, the next generation so to speak. These are the people you want to shout about eve to other new players, not bitter vets, who only say, this is eve dont like it get lost attitude. Thats ALL WRONG. New players will not come to a game full of idiots. They just wont. So listen to the vets, but listen to new players too. The problem with CSM its full of idiot vets, some out to ruin the game (so why are they in there). Big mistake, remove the CSM now, before these idiots ruin the game entirely.
You know what the issues are now, you know what your mistakes are and you know where you want to be, so basically just get on with it! |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:58:00 -
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Scarlett Anstian wrote:If the CSM was full of new players (like me), we wouldn't know where to start when it comes to addressing issues in game. The veterans know what promises have been made before and how changes to the game mechanics will influence the player base more than others.
Like you said though the CSM is just full of old players looking to secure their own interests in the game. I am sure however that CCP realizes this and so takes what they say with a pinch of salt. I have not been around long but the CSM does voice some of my major concerns so like all real political situations I will vote for them and take the good with the bad.
Never said it should be full of new players m8, I said that new players need to have a voice. I been playing the gaem for 8 years by the way, so Im not talking from a new player point of view. But the problem is new players are not staying? Why? We need to understand that, we need to ensure that we keep that rentention. So we need to understand what is missing and how eve can be improved, to ensure new players not only stay but promote the game. I got in the game because my work mates, said hey look at this, its awesome. So i did and we all played together, and we had lots of convos at work about it. How exciting it was that we bought a cruiser today! and damn i can use t2 mods now etc etc. It was exciting and interesting..
But when new players come on, and all they see is load of idiot vets telling them to 'go back to wow', get lost, yada yada you think they want to stay? Of course not.. To be honest you probably wanted to weed out 30% of the vets, becuase they are not good for the game, and they breed hatred etc.
Eve to move on needs to remove this, remove stuff like scamming as well or better ways to avoid it.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:59:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Signal11th wrote:Karadion wrote:"Goons this, goons that, goons everything, goons are ruining my "Walking in Station" experience! Give me my incarna, wah wah wah." Go play Second Life or in traffic.
At least the CSM had some influence in getting CCP to dump their stupid Vampire MMO and scale down Dust that both of would have never worked. Nothing like reinforcing a stereotype mate! Believe what you want. You can listen to those little voices in your head.
Goons are killing the game, everything they stand for is wrong for eve.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:03:00 -
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Hirana Yoshida wrote:The "whole community" is limited to 10-15% of the population as that is the amount of people who care enough about Eve to vote in the CSM elections.
The remaining 85-90% of people have NO SAY in the matter AT ALL! They chose not to participate and thus forfeit their rights to ***** and moan over anything not directly consumer related (which is covered by RL laws).
What CCP needs to do is tweak the election process for future CSM's to ensure that the members have a more even spread and represent all walks of life (in Eve) .. plus add a blank vote option as that is sorely needed.
Thats a problem then isnt it.... They dont get involved because, its not really interesting for them to. They dont really get enough interaction. Also when big alliances vote for themselves, its a little pointless isnt it....seriously...
Players in alliance, then out of alliance alts etc..
Just I think CCP (if they kept CSM) should vote internally who should be on the CSM - like an interview process.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:04:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Karadion wrote:"Goons this, goons that, goons everything, goons are ruining my "Walking in Station" experience! Give me my incarna, wah wah wah." Go play Second Life or in traffic.
At least the CSM had some influence in getting CCP to dump their stupid Vampire MMO and scale down Dust that both of would have never worked. 1: They didn't 2: The Mittani was anything but critical in his view towards incarna and MT 3: Vile Rat didn't even care about buying golden scorpions with Aurum 4: CSM was late jumping on the bandwagon and is now some are trying to claim victory while all they did was ride along. 1) Yes they were 2) Wrong 3) Yes he did 4) Wrong again. All typical empire pubbie answers.
Look stop sticking up for your leaders, people are now a little f**ked off with them, seems even CCP are... You need to now shut up, because quite frankly no one cares anymore. |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:07:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Karadion wrote:Ciar Meara wrote:Karadion wrote:"Goons this, goons that, goons everything, goons are ruining my "Walking in Station" experience! Give me my incarna, wah wah wah." Go play Second Life or in traffic.
At least the CSM had some influence in getting CCP to dump their stupid Vampire MMO and scale down Dust that both of would have never worked. 1: They didn't 2: The Mittani was anything but critical in his view towards incarna and MT 3: Vile Rat didn't even care about buying golden scorpions with Aurum 4: CSM was late jumping on the bandwagon and is now some are trying to claim victory while all they did was ride along. 1) Yes they were 2) Wrong 3) Yes he did 4) Wrong again. All typical empire pubbie answers. Look stop sticking up for your leaders, people are now a little f**ked off with them, seems even CCP are... You need to now shut up, because quite frankly no one cares anymore. No.
Keep looking stupid then....up to you... See that bit i posted about idiot vets....... Mittani alt perhaps? |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:09:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:This CSM has done more them most other CSMs have done in the past years. It may not have been what you wanted but thats life. Still shows that CCP has been taking the CSM a bit more seriously.
kugu? get out you have another (full of idiot vets forums) to tend to.....
keep them all in there please...
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:10:00 -
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Astenion wrote:I can see why people are upset at the CSM due to all the hubbub but what did you think was going to happen by electing Goons to be in charge of ANYTHING? Their mantra is complete and total anarchy and troublemaking. That's like electing Sid Vicious to Prime Minister and then getting pissed off when everything goes to ****.
I mean, you can fault them for it but then again you really can't. The American people elected GW Bush for a second term; did they think things were going to actually get better? They've only got themselves to blame.
Well said ^^
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:15:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:This CSM has done more them most other CSMs have done in the past years. It may not have been what you wanted but thats life. Still shows that CCP has been taking the CSM a bit more seriously.
kugu? get out you have another (full of idiot vets forums) to tend to..... keep them all in there please... K.com has more useful information, maybe you should keep an open mind. But hey "Hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing" always works for you Empire pubbies. As long you fellate CCP's egos, they would go back to the way things were, keep working on WiS to bring you Second Life Redux. "Can I get chapless ass pants CCP?"
No it doesnt. It full of bitter vets...who are lets say it bitter... kugu is the place where all those idiots i spoke about hang out. Who think they are epeen, its the sespit of eve players..
Thats fine keep them there...
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:17:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:This CSM has done more them most other CSMs have done in the past years. It may not have been what you wanted but thats life. Still shows that CCP has been taking the CSM a bit more seriously.
kugu? get out you have another (full of idiot vets forums) to tend to..... keep them all in there please... K.com has more useful information, maybe you should keep an open mind. But hey "Hear nothing, see nothing, say nothing" always works for you Empire pubbies. As long you fellate CCP's egos, they would go back to the way things were, keep working on WiS to bring you Second Life Redux. "Can I get chapless ass pants CCP?" No it doesnt. It full of bitter vets...who are lets say it bitter... kugu is the place where all those idiots i spoke about hang out. Who think they are epeen, its the sespit of eve players.. Thats fine keep them there... And we can be here too. That's the great thing about forums. People can come and go. We don't serve at your pleasure. We serve to annoy you instead.
Im glad YOU said that..... anyway with respect now, you think we can stay ON TOPIC, rather than derailing it. We wouldnt want to get banned for trolling now would we.. |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:20:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Im glad YOU said that..... anyway with respect now, you think we can stay ON TOPIC, rather than derailing it. We wouldnt want to get banned for trolling now would we.. Trolling how? I'm disputing your questions and tactics to try to resort to cheap tactics in getting the CSM team dismissed for none other than that they don't represent your best interest, Second Life Redux.
Sorry but your not, i asked you to stay on topic, so i have had to report you..sorry.. |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:26:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Im glad YOU said that..... anyway with respect now, you think we can stay ON TOPIC, rather than derailing it. We wouldnt want to get banned for trolling now would we.. Trolling how? I'm disputing your questions and tactics to try to resort to cheap tactics in getting the CSM team dismissed for none other than that they don't represent your best interest, Second Life Redux. Sorry but your not, i asked you to stay on topic, so i have had to report you..sorry.. Err. You do realize YOUR the one who disregarded what I said and just made a comment about my alliance, which then started the discussion about K.com. You derailed your own thread. Go report yourself.
I think you just errrr 'revealed your alts'... |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:29:00 -
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I think you just errrr 'revealed your alts'... Quote:Are you seriously that paranoid? First you accused me of being Mittani and are you accusing me of being that person? I must be omnipotent.
Dude you posted that remark with
Brooks Puuntai
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Unless he thinks he is you... |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:34:00 -
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Karadion wrote:James Duar wrote:Jada Maroo wrote:Ansolutely agree with Hilmar on this one. The current CSM has done some good things, but let's not kid ourselves. Rarely are Goons good for the overall playing experience of an MMO. Mittani is looking out for himself and his own lulz, not anyone else's. And before he pipes in and says "But I supported the super cap nerf and I have super caps!" -- you also have more players than your potential targets, so weakening their supers really just makes them easier for you to take down. It's not selfless, it's blatantly self serving. Supers are bad and make the game bad, and this is a bad post and you should feel bad. Pubbies don't feel bad, they just get dumber with each new thread.
Seriously stop trolling dude - stay on topic... |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:38:00 -
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Gilentajsa wrote:Hirana Yoshida wrote:The "whole community" is limited to 10-15% of the population as that is the amount of people who care enough about Eve to vote in the CSM elections.
The remaining 85-90% of people have NO SAY in the matter AT ALL! They chose not to participate and thus forfeit their rights to ***** and moan over anything not directly consumer related (which is covered by RL laws).
What CCP needs to do is tweak the election process for future CSM's to ensure that the members have a more even spread and represent all walks of life (in Eve) .. plus add a blank vote option as that is sorely needed.  Why not make it so that; unless you are a trial, when election time rolls around you need to cast a ballot to actually get past the character selection screen? I think that would get a more evenly distributed pool of voters that I'm doubting the goons could effectively combat with ballot stuffing.
Personally, stop all the open voting. CSMees should basically be interviewed by senior CCP Management. That panel then decides whos in the CSM. Having 5000 of your own alliance mates voting for you, well its a given and pretty much rigged voting.
But anyway I still think CSM should be just removed. Yes some things have happened, but 95% hasnt, and tbh since CSM inception eve as got in the state it has now.. So has it an impact? Well negatively then ..surely... |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:46:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I think you just errrr 'revealed your alts'... Quote:Are you seriously that paranoid? First you accused me of being Mittani and are you accusing me of being that person? I must be omnipotent. Dude you posted that remark with Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum **********. Unless he thinks he is you... Yes I'm his alt. Or is he my alt? Iam confused. I'm not like you(iam guessing by character age) and don't need to hide behind alts. I have never been in Goons or have any alts in goons, actually I have no alts since all my other accounts are canceled. Then again you will believe whatever you want to believe. The fact of the matter is that what you've done with this thread is spin Hilmars words into a anti-goons speech. What Hilmar was talking about was not goons our any issues within the current CSM itself. He was talking about the CSM process and how the current CSM is majority if not all 0,0 delegates. The issues that he was talking about was that non 0,0 areas where not properly represented.
No try read it again. It said Goons AND nullsec powermads. Im sorry but this game DOES NOT need people like Goons ruinng the game anymore. Its killing eve. Simple Fact. Im sorry it is... People like DRF are also ruining the game too. But goons are the people who all they care about is making eve a misery for people. Is this really the future of eve? Because if it is, then goodbye eve. Might as well shut up shop now. Can the game...
People and eve have moved on from 5 years ago, yes it was ok back then becuase it didnt effect many people. Now its affecting thousands more. Which in return is affecting the game, badly.
CCP needs to implement so drastic fundamentals in eve for it to retain new players. Its ok for me and you, we may player longer we may not. But theres gonna be a drop off point where all the bitter vets have gone, and then whose left?
No one... and will you care? no ofc you wont..
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:49:00 -
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Mallikanth wrote:OP is: a) A troll b) a tard c) Both of the above. Please vote and then be prepared for a thread saying the vote was rigged 'cos of Falcon / Goons or any such meme.  [Edited for stoopid speeling]
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:50:00 -
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David Carel wrote:Go biomass your characters and do us all a favor.
reported for trolling
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:53:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I think you just errrr 'revealed your alts'... Quote:Are you seriously that paranoid? First you accused me of being Mittani and are you accusing me of being that person? I must be omnipotent. Dude you posted that remark with Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum **********. Unless he thinks he is you... Yes I'm his alt. Or is he my alt? Iam confused. I'm not like you(iam guessing by character age) and don't need to hide behind alts. I have never been in Goons or have any alts in goons, actually I have no alts since all my other accounts are canceled. Then again you will believe whatever you want to believe. The fact of the matter is that what you've done with this thread is spin Hilmars words into a anti-goons speech. What Hilmar was talking about was not goons our any issues within the current CSM itself. He was talking about the CSM process and how the current CSM is majority if not all 0,0 delegates. The issues that he was talking about was that non 0,0 areas where not properly represented. No try read it again. It said Goons AND nullsec powermads. Im sorry but this game DOES NOT need people like Goons ruinng the game anymore. Its killing eve. Simple Fact. Im sorry it is... People like DRF are also ruining the game too. But goons are the people who all they care about is making eve a misery for people. Is this really the future of eve? Because if it is, then goodbye eve. Might as well shut up shop now. Can the game... People and eve have moved on from 5 years ago, yes it was ok back then becuase it didnt effect many people. Now its affecting thousands more. Which in return is affecting the game, badly. CCP needs to implement some drastic fundamental changes in eve for it to retain new and yes old players. Its ok for me and you, we may player longer we may not. But theres gonna be a drop off point where all the bitter vets have gone, and then whose left? No one... and will you care? no ofc you wont.. We've been around for years and we will continue to be around. Sorry, just because you wish for it to happen doesn't mean we will magically go away. We exist to make life hell for you. That's the point of this game. I can blow your ship up, I can prevent you from mining, I can scam, I can hire privateers to chase your butt down, etc. All while you scream "SAVE ME CONCORD, SAVE ME CCP :( BAN THOSE MEAN GOONIES."
Privateers....lol thats a funny one..
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Posted - 2011.10.21 12:55:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:TBH this is turning into an Anti-goon speech.
This should have nothing to do with the Goons, this is about CCP and how they run business. Goons are good for the game in all reality, bias CSM is not.
Sadly its a goon making into a anti goon speech.. but yes please stay on topic guys..
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:00:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Privateers....lol thats a funny one..
What was inaccurate about it? We literally pay our own people to go hunt miners. How does that not fit the definition of privateering? Do I have to fit a specific definition that only you have?
What i meant was - 'lol privateers' not the most scary of adversaries.. |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:07:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Karadion wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Privateers....lol thats a funny one..
What was inaccurate about it? We literally pay our own people to go hunt miners. How does that not fit the definition of privateering? Do I have to fit a specific definition that only you have? What i meant was - 'lol privateers' not the most scary of adversaries.. You don't even read or comprehend well, do you? We pay our own people to go act as privateers. We've killed over 1200 exhumers to date since the beginning of the ice interdiction / privateering effort. http://killboard.goonfleet.com/shipgroup/Exhumer
Please refrain from personal attacks thank you..
I apologise you said Privateers.. thats all, not your own privs.
Large alliance coming into highsec, ruining all the new players experience.. awesome.. no wonder new players dont stay playing the game.. and you say your good for eve?
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:11:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:White Tree wrote:Gilentajsa wrote:
What was that you said?
I couldn't hear you through the **** in your mouth.
I too get upset when my worldview is wrong and I am proved repeatedly to be a petulant infant. I see you did not make any attempt at refuting the claim that you are pleasuring mitten's reproductive organ with your mouth, and thus we can only conclude it is true. That leaves only two questions; is it for love or favors, and does he clean himself daily? BTW, I do like the OP, and wish him luck in the future for what ever ice mining venture he partakes in.
I moved on to ratting now... more danger... i can fight back with my t2 drones now, but i do fit 1 mining laser on my cane, as i miss the blue beam and the feeling of hard rock entering my cargo hold
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Posted - 2011.10.21 13:57:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I'm betting this thread would not even be here if it wasn't for the war agaist the ice giants.
Nothing but tears and attempts to get back at people doing pvp in a pvp game.
Wow you really believe that?
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:01:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:STAY ON TOPIC - I WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM REPORTING TROLLS  oh no you WILL report trolls who mock your horrible thread *backs slowly out of the forum*
fixed that for you - its quite a serious thread m8. But as usual the goon squad make a mokery of anything thats remotely serious about this game.. As you can see the sentence has a smiley on the end, meaning dont take life too seriously mate also. |
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Kazanir wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:fixed that for you - its quite a serious thread m8. But as usual the goon squad make a mokery of anything thats remotely serious about this game.. So far Goons: 1. Have put two people on the CSM. 2. Have used the CSM to loudly demand that CCP put more resources towards EVE. 3. Have actually been effective in helping get CCP to change their tune towards EVE. 4. Have been dicks to people on public forums quite a lot of the time. I personally am not prone to trolling, shitposting, or being a **** to people on forums. I'm a notoriously serious poster. But by any measure, the CSM this year has been damn effective, and if the price I have to pay for that is Vile Rat and Mittani being a **** to people like you on the forums, it is a price I am extremely willing to pay. I think a lot of people -- even a lot of people who are no fans of Goonswarm politically -- will agree with me.
I think you will also find ALOT dont.. Anyway everyone is entitiled to their own opinion and this is what discussions are for.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:14:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I think you will also find ALOT dont.. Anyway everyone is entitiled to their own opinion and this is what discussions are for.
when you become entitled to an opinion you will be given one
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:16:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:RougeOperator wrote:
BUT i can say that the CSM is not the issue here after reading the interview.
Your right the current CSM isn't. However the CSM Process could be changed to have delegate positions for different aspects of the game, high, low, null. etc. So the CSM isn't completely biased towards a certain play style. This is the issue, not the current CSM or Goons. Sadly the OP is too butthurt over goons to realize this. I await getting reported for personal attack.
You are entitled to your own opinion. If you want to lower yourself to the state of your forums, and participate in personal attacks, then thats up to you also. |
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:22:00 -
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Well I guess Hilmar as the same reservations and concerns as us 'non goons' do. The funny thing is, its only the goons coming in hear crying about it. What does that say? Whos butthurt?
Hilmar will make his own mind up. Hopefully he grows some balls and does the right thing. If he can fire his own staff he shouldmt have a problem doing this..
I think I have said my peace in this post. So ill leave you to discuss further without my intervention.
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:35:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Mr Management wrote:The CSM is broken. The game was better in CCP's hand.
When 5000 people can vote for their alliance leader who publically writes that he wants to break Eve
then the system is flawed. No. It show that the system works. The "broken" part is that they only need 5,000 to get him the chair because the complainers can't stop complaining instead of activating and motivating an opposition. That's a flaw in the opposition, not the system.
Wow anything about goons, you are there feeling butthurt, goon alt spotted.... go away tippia you offer nothing of any worth.... 0/10
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:41:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Tippia wrote:Mr Management wrote:The CSM is broken. The game was better in CCP's hand.
When 5000 people can vote for their alliance leader who publically writes that he wants to break Eve
then the system is flawed. No. It show that the system works. The "broken" part is that they only need 5,000 to get him the chair because the complainers can't stop complaining instead of activating and motivating an opposition. That's a flaw in the opposition, not the system. Wow anything about goons, you are there feeling butthurt, goon alt spotted.... go away tippia you offer nothing of any worth.... 0/10 didn't you say you were getting out of the thread anyway offtopic post spotted, reported
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:46:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Tippia wrote:Mr Management wrote:The CSM is broken. The game was better in CCP's hand.
When 5000 people can vote for their alliance leader who publically writes that he wants to break Eve
then the system is flawed. No. It show that the system works. The "broken" part is that they only need 5,000 to get him the chair because the complainers can't stop complaining instead of activating and motivating an opposition. That's a flaw in the opposition, not the system. Wow anything about goons, you are there feeling butthurt, goon alt spotted.... go away tippia you offer nothing of any worth.... 0/10 So everyone who disagrees with you is a goon alt? Kindof a silly logic. Plus Tippia is awesome and pretty well known around the forums. Next your going to say Akita T or Chribba are Goon alts if they don't agree with you.
Lol well known for his terrible posting, and his self righeous attitude you mean?
Oh btw read hilmars quote (himself and OTHER PLAYERS) are concerned.. there must of been quite alot for him to pay attention..dont you think?
anyway im out....now the post has been moved to jita, its just gonna get trolled by you lot...\o |
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Posted - 2011.10.23 13:58:00 -
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C4LYP50 wrote:Mr LaForge wrote:To the OP. STOP WHINING ABOUT NOTHING.
This CSM got CCP back on the right track in regards to EVE. This. While I voted for someone else, I have to give credit to all the CSM this time around. These people jumped through hoops and dropped everything repeatedly to concentrate on fixing things that needed fixing, and were assailed on all sides for their stance, they were (and are) heroes to me. We owe them a bit of applause. I don't always agree with what they say, or their views on alot of things, but over all, I feel these people were the guys we needed, on hand when we needed them. Cheers!
Funny how you lot are in the MINORITY. Funny how more and more posts have risen, asking for the CSM to be removed. Not just me. Keep arguing your lame case. The simple fact is YOU HAVE NO SUPPORT. ITS GONE. GAME OVER.
The more you keep desperately clinging onto what ever dignity you have left, and trying to give some lame reason, the more stupid you are looking. IM sorry to be a bit flippant, but myself and many others have simple had enough.
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Posted - 2011.10.23 16:17:00 -
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SMT008 wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Funny how you lot are in the MINORITY. Funny how more and more posts have risen, asking for the CSM to be removed. Not just me. Keep arguing your lame case. The simple fact is YOU HAVE NO SUPPORT. ITS GONE. GAME OVER.
Come on, I too can create a bunch of forum alts and post IN CAPS all over the forums. It doesn't prove anything. Also, you seems to be....somewhat mad about a video game. Go out, take a deep breath, it helps  You might want to think about something like trains. You know, peoples complain when trains are late right ? They'll complain. When trains arrives right on time, they won't go all "Hurray nice job you did there !" because it's normal. It's how it's supposed to be. Deal with it.
Funny hows it only idiot goons posting cry baby tears - keep deep throatng mittani its hilarious....goons just keeping look stupid... |
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